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  • Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:36 PM

    • floppyd
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    HVX200 VFR P2 out to HD1400 via Firewire

    Octo-Mac / 10.4.11 / QT 7.3 / MC 2.8 / Mojo SDI

    Imported some 720p/23.98 (over 59.94) P2 footage from HVX-200. Footage is under/overcranked (Variable Frame Rates)
    Imported fantastically into a 720p/23.98 project, properly recognized in the bin as 720p/59.94 with a 23.98 frame rate.

    Go to output via Firewire to our AJ-HD1400 - disable Mojo SDI using "DNA" button on Timeline.
    Connect 1400 via Firewire. Change Deck Configuration to Firewire on OHCI and it auto-configures the 1400/60. Close/Relaunch application.

    Open Digital Cut tool - only options are for Crash Record, when I know this deck supports Insert / Assemble (since I do it all the time in FCP...)
    And even if I set it to Crash Record, I get a massive Flamethrower error that ends with 'Failed to Initialize Stream'

    Does anyone have a secret recipe to allow MC Soft to output (even assemble edit) to a HD1400 deck?

    I know that the deck only records 59.94, but FCP will take a 23.98 sequence and add in the 2:3 / flagged frames to output to tape.    It seems the Avid can / will not do this?

    If I try to drop these clips into a 720p/59.94 project I get the:

    "Clip Frame Rate (23976) does not match Project Frame Rate (59940)"   Error.

    Now I'm not on Adrenaline, so I don't have the option of transcoding to DNxHD and outputting via HD-SDI, and, frankly, I shouldn't need to.  

    Has anyone ever sucessfully output variable frame rate footage from a HVX-200 out to tape via Firewire?

    I do it all the time in FCP, and I really don't want to have to do this job in FCP, but if Avid won't do the job, then I'm going to have to.


    Thanks in Advance, as always -

    -Scott

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  • Tue, Mar 25 2008 2:24 AM In reply to

    Re: HVX200 VFR P2 out to HD1400 via Firewire

    I have found FW output in 23.976 projects to be very flaky at best. 

    We have an AJ-HD1200a, which only supports crash recording.  Once you enable Video Output to 1394 and have the deck attached, you will almost always get a Flamethrower error the first time you try and play a sequence.  If you hit play again immediately, it should play.

    Likewise, we've found digcuts to be equally unreliable.  I sometimes have to try ten times in order to get it to work, but eventually, it does.

    BTW, 59.94 over FW has worked well.


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  • Tue, Mar 25 2008 2:48 PM In reply to

    • Bill Nelson
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    Re: HVX200 VFR P2 out to HD1400 via Firewire

    an equally unsatisfactory alternative is to record the off-speed footage to DV in-camera.  Yep, this little camera is WAY ahead of Avid's capacity to ingest and output.

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  • Tue, Mar 25 2008 7:26 PM In reply to

    • floppyd
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    Re: HVX200 VFR P2 out to HD1400 via Firewire

    Thank you both for your help.


    I, too, have had great success with 59.94 based output over FW.

    Had I known there was off-speed stuff before starting, I probably would have played it directly out of the camera via FW into our 1400 and then just digitized in via the SD-SDI. 

    Ah well, client approved the rough cut today so it all works out in the end.


    Thanks again,

    -Scott

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