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  • Mon, Mar 17 2008 4:00 PM

    • Yasch
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    Pan and Zoom

    How about revamping the pan and zoom tool? At least adding rotation. That would be awesome and very useful for historical documentary work.


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  • Mon, Mar 17 2008 4:13 PM In reply to

    • MikePoglitsch
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    Re: Pan and Zoom

     I second that, we've only had Boris (Avid FX) if you want rotation.  It would be an awesome addition to Pan & Zoom.

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  • Tue, Mar 18 2008 9:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: Pan and Zoom

    Third that!  At this point it's pretty absurd to be missing rotation.  Hell, it really should have Z axis moves as well. 


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  • Tue, Mar 18 2008 9:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan and Zoom

     In the meantime, nest a 3D warp or 3D PIP onto the Pan and Zoom clips and rotate away!

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  • Tue, Mar 18 2008 10:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Pan and Zoom

    Some means to easily batch relink the image files would be nice.... Pan and Zoom is a nightmare when you are sharing projects and the file paths don't correspond (unless there is a trick I don't know...)

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  • Tue, Mar 18 2008 10:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan and Zoom

     I whole-heartedly agree with that request. 

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  • Tue, Mar 18 2008 11:31 PM In reply to

    • Yasch
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    Re: Pan and Zoom

    Kenton.VanNatten:

    In the meantime, nest a 3D warp or 3D PIP onto the Pan and Zoom clips and rotate away!


    Nesting wouldn't work.

    The 3D PIP gives you great flexibility to move the picture around, but is lacking when it comes to zooming in. The Pan and Zoom effect uses the original pictures resolution to give you that good quality when you zoom in.

    Nesting a Pan and Zoom into a 3D PIP, your picture will be confined to your projects resolution (720 x 480...) and you won't be able to rotate or edit the 3D dimensions to your full picture.

    Currently, we use After Effects for panning that requires anything more than position and scale. You can imagine how tedious that can be, especially when archiving the project.

    Revamping the Pan and Zoom tool would be a big improvement, especially for documentary work that is heavy on images.

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  • Wed, Mar 19 2008 12:38 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan and Zoom

    Yasch:
    Nesting a Pan and Zoom into a 3D PIP, your picture will be confined to your projects resolution (720 x 480...) and you won't be able to rotate or edit the 3D dimensions to your full picture.

    Are you sure? 

    I place the P&Z onto Filler, point it to my image, then hold ALT and double-click the 3D PIP effect.  I then Step In to make adjustments to the P&Z effect and Step Out to do any 3D work (ie rotations).  I've never noticed any image degradation as the 3D PIP is only rotating "Filler" as far as it's concerned.  The P&Z still uses the original resolution. 




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  • Wed, Mar 19 2008 2:51 AM In reply to

    • Yasch
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    Re: Pan and Zoom

    Kenton.VanNatten:
    I place the P&Z onto Filler, point it to my image, then hold ALT and double-click the 3D PIP effect.  I then Step In to make adjustments to the P&Z effect and Step Out to do any 3D work (ie rotations).

    The Pan and Zoom uses the original image, but the 3D PIP doesn't. So even if you nest the Pan and Zoom in a 3D PIP, when you rotate, you are rotating a 720 x 480 image, not the original image.

    So if I have an 8 x 10 document that I want to pan and zoom with rotation, your method will rotate the results of the Pan and Zoom effect, not the full document.

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