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  • Wed, Jun 6 2018 8:45 PM

    • Roach13
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    only 708 captions from aff cloced caption file

    HI,

     

    I am in need of sending out a show to a broadcaster with 708 & 608 captions. I had a company do teh captioning for me and they sent back an aaf with apparently both  setting. I can add them in avid and view them. On output I opened up the exported show to check CC and found that I had 708 CC but no 608 CC. Am I wrong in thinking teh 608 is missing or does it play off the 708?

     

    Cheers,

     

    John

     

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  • Wed, Jun 13 2018 9:31 PM In reply to

    • Roach13
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    Re: only 708 captions from aff cloced caption file

    After a chat with Avid support I found out that embedding both 608 and 708 captions on export is not supported by Avid. It's embarrassing to have to go to Adobe Premiere to be able to get both captions embedded to deliver a show to Broadcast standards. I've laways felt that Premiere was a good editing tool but Avid was the professional tool. If it can't meet broadcast standards then this makes me question this thinking.

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  • Thu, Jun 14 2018 7:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: only 708 captions from aff cloced caption file

    John,

    By design, 708 contains 608 compatabilty data. We deliver HD files to many broadcast clients and have never delivered anything other than embedded 708. Who's spec is calling for both 708 and 608 as separate ancilary data?

    I also have not had great luck with Premiere or Media Encoder adding a sidecare caption file and exporting a MOV PRHQ with a 708 caption track. Maybe I just have not figured it out.

    Don

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  • Sat, Jun 16 2018 6:28 AM In reply to

    • Roach13
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    Re: only 708 captions from aff cloced caption file

    I don't know why this broadcaster wants it this way. We just switched stations and the last broadcaster said the same thing but I just sent 708 and no one ever said a word. This one though I guess is a bit more of a stickler and they want both channels. I was able to make it work with Premiere but I look at the captions the 708 ones are all over the screen. My captinoing comppany assured me it was my Premiere that was making it odd and when I sent it in teh broadcaster passed it so at least I can work around it. Who knows?! As long as it passes QC and I have  worflow I'm good. Just surprised I have to go outside Avid even if this is an odd request.

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