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  • Sat, Apr 14 2018 12:04 AM

    • fropdaddy
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    i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    Is anyone running Threadripper with Media Composer?

    I recently was able to run a transcode test with Media Composer 2018.3 on an i9-7900X processor, an i7 iMac 18,3, and a Threadripper 1950 using 4K UHD footage shot on a Cannon C300 Mark II transcoding it to DNX36.

    Results:

    iMac 1.1 x faster than real time (however didn't run the test long enough to hit the thermal throttling that we know we will hit)

    i9 system 2.61 x faster than real time to transcode (around 91% CPU usage)

    Threadripper system 4.29 x faster than real time to transcode (around 91% CPU usage)

    I am looking at getting a system that we would like to use for Media Composer.  At NAB, AMD had a Threadripper system running Media Composer and the demo was running smoothly at high res (of course a demo would run smoothly).  I am debating on getting something just for transcoding and then as a render station for our graphics team which would mean that the system would get minimal usage, or get a system for either an AE or an Editor that would be used for transcoding when we get footage in and then for editorial the rest of the time.

    Is anyone using a Threadripper or i9?

    I'd love to hear about it.

     

     

  • Sat, Apr 14 2018 9:37 AM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    I remember only one guy on this forum doing test on AMD last fall. Can't find the thread now.

    Said playback was stuttering. I wasn't entirely confident it was CPU/chipset related.

     

    I'd say using threadripper for transcoding machine is smart as well as safe.

    I'm gonna get the xeon flavor of your i9 wehenever it becomes available.

    if it ever does. Current gen intel xeon is total vaporware.

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  • Sat, Apr 14 2018 1:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    fropdaddy:

    Is anyone using a Threadripper or i9?

    I'd love to hear about it.

    If you're curious about tests on software beyond MC, you may want to take a look at some of Puget Systems' articles where they test various combinations of hardware with Resolve, After Effects etc.

    Makes interesting reading.

    https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CC-2018-CPU-Comparison-Intel-8th-Gen-vs-X-series-vs-Ryzen-vs-Threadripper-1123/

     

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  • Sat, Apr 14 2018 11:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    I love following Puget's postings.  I talked to them on Wednesday at NAB and mentioned that I'd love to see tests with Media Composer.  They said that after being at the show they were definitely going to do that (though I don't know that I could hold them to that). I know they thry to give a good report on the whole of the system and how it works with applications.  Granted my first priority would be to have a killer transcode system, but if it does that well, then there is a good chance that it could handle offline easily.

    I am having a friend do some tests on the i7-8700K this weekend and should have numbers on Monday.

    I talked to someone who works for Avid and he said he would ask the engineers where things were with AMD as it sounded like they were doing some work on it.

  • Sun, Apr 15 2018 12:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    I remember that thread as well.

    I did find this thread which I hadn't seen before when looking for the other one:

    http://community.avid.com/forums/p/183853/854944.aspx#854944

    Too bad I have to buy or build something in the next month or so.  The new Threadrippers should be out in about 3 months.

     

  • Sun, Apr 15 2018 10:00 AM In reply to

    • Bruno M
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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    fropdaddy:
    Too bad I have to buy or build something in the next month or so.

    You might want to consider the new Gigabyte X299 Designare EX motherboard as it's the only one I know that's got built-in Thunderbolt 3 ports (on USB type C connectors). This will mean you'll have to go with Intel Core X CPUs.

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  • Sun, Apr 15 2018 1:30 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    fropdaddy:

    Too bad I have to buy or build something in the next month or so. 

     

    new threadrippers should be only a modest improvement.

    New ryzens are out now, threadrippers will get same upgrades i recon.

     

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  • Wed, Apr 18 2018 3:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    The i7-8700K did the transcode test at 1.36 times faster than realtime.

  • Tue, May 8 2018 12:16 AM In reply to

    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    Hey, I'm a few weeks late, but I just found this thread while searching for solutions to my threadripper problems.  the main one seems to echo the thread above: playback stuttering.  It feels exactly like trying to playback uncompressed media from a thumbdrive.

    I'm not sure what else to try to solve the problem, I can't find any information on what might be different on this platform vs intel. but for sure the problem is still here.  If I had it to do over I would definately go with an intel platform.

    I will say that ingesting media seems to go very quickly.

  • Wed, May 9 2018 5:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    What video card are you running on your system?

    I know that the demo system that they were running at the AMD booth at NAB had a high end one.

  • Thu, May 10 2018 1:01 AM In reply to

    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    1080ti from EVGA.  My playback is about 4 frames per second.  I moved the media and project to an external drive and a 10 year old intel system runs it just fine.  I contacted avid and they said they don't support the Ryzen platform, which normally I take to mean 'yeah it works but we don't troubleshoot', but in this case it means it just doesnt work.  That's on me for not exploring more when I built this system, but it's still a kick in the gut (and wallet) because I really want to use it.  My choice is to sell it, sideline it until avid updates compatability, or switch to a competator until avid updates compatability.

  • Thu, May 10 2018 1:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    Odd ~my older AMD FX 8 core runs great...

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  • Thu, May 10 2018 9:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    TVJohn:

    Odd ~my older AMD FX 8 core runs great...

    my first dual opteron did as well. in 2003 ;)

     

    a pitty though, would love myself a threadripper as secondary system.

     

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  • Fri, May 11 2018 4:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    I haven't been able to work with it much, but I did get my system built with the i9 10 core processor.

    I have a blackmagic Intensity Pro 4k card which feeds a UHD monitor that seems to be working well and the transcodes are running well.

    I did see about editing C300 Mark II straight from the camera masters and it ran faster and was more responsive than running on our Cheesegrater MacPro 5,1 systems, even though the PC is running on a 10 year old video card.  I'm waiting for the current card prices to drop...

  • Wed, Aug 15 2018 9:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: i9 vs Threadripper (Intel vs AMD) plus some test results

    I tested a ryzen cpu when it first came out and posted about poor playback.

    I wish Avid would work on 32core Threadripper support.

    i cant imagine how fast an ama export would be w 32 cores (with no drive bottlenecks).

     

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