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  • Fri, Jan 26 2018 5:19 AM

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    Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Hi,

     

    I'm trying to color correct (new to this) in Avid and I can't sem to stop a colour correction being applied to every instance that the clip appears in my timeline. I don't have in & out points on my timeline. How can I stop this occurring?

    Thanks

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 1:39 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Anyone??

    .....I would have thought this was one of those super obvious solutions that I've missed but I can't work this out and I need to get this graded

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 3:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Where did you add your color correction? If you did it at the source level, then it will show up on all clips added to the timeline.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 3:40 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Hi,

     

    I don't really know what you mean.

     

    This is what I did:

    - Track selected (V1)

    - playhead on clip

    - Using modes to left of timeline, clicked on colour correction

     

    Then whatever I do is applied to every instance of that clip on the timeline. (The source clip I'm editing from is over 1 hour long. It's 1 angle of a live performance that's been edited together with many other angles. So I don't want the same grade applied to every instance of this clip as there's many different lighting states throughout the performance that need to be colored separately)

    Can you explain how not to colour correct at source level?

     

    Cheers

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 4:16 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Are you using Media Composer or Symphony? And are you seeing only instances of that clip being color corrected or are you seeing the entire timeline being color corrected?

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 4:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    I'm using Media Composer. (It's not MC "First" sorry....I realised after I posted that I may be in the wrong forum but figured it was probably ok)

    It's a full/paid version of MC (8.9.4) and I'm on a Mac.

     

    To answer your question it's only instances of the clip my play head is on.

    The attached screenshots show a before & after I apply a correction. You can see the green line appears on all the clips that have had the correction applied. But I don't want that. I just want the correction to be applied to the clip I'm working on.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 5:55 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    I think your timeline clip in question is probably a GroupClip, which you can verify by zooming in and revealing the full clip name, or by doing a Match Frame. So check that. If the Source monitor shows a GroupClip, then press Match Frame in the Source monitor to reveal a Masterclip at the same position. Press Replace button after correctly patching from Source to Composer. Now do some crazy drastic color correction on that timeline clip to learn if it propagates onto all the Clips— like you’ve shown.

    If I’m guessing correctly, you may have discovered a VERY  useful bug or a great (new?) feature, which would be helpful for 99% of MC (non-Symphony) editors, just not you.

     

    But my method is the probable workaround.

     

     

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Thanks but not a group clip unfortunately.

    I've just had another look at the properties of the clip and can't see anything unusual. It's imported normally (at DNxHD120).

    Problem still stands. Anything else it could be?

     

     

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    OK fine, but did you not say something g about “angles?” above? Your timeline, if not started with one angle of a multi-camera groupclip, *may* have initially been all alone before having a CC applied, then if you are correct, other angles were manually edited in. That might explain all the Green lines. Or not. If you describe in detail how the timeline you are showing  got built, maybe someone else can test your method to try and duplicate the issue. Good luck.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:36 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    In th CC comtrols, to the top left, it now says “master clip”. Click it and see if you can set it to just ‘segment’.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    That did it!

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Thank you so much.

    I suspected it would be something really simple like that!

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Funny that the ‘Master Clip’ option is there, since that feature does not exist in regular MC, unless you buy the Symphony option.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 6:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    jaygon:
    I'm using Media Composer. (It's not MC "First" sorry....I realised after I posted that I may be in the wrong forum but figured it was probably ok)

    Actually, when I read your original post yesterday I thought it sounded like you'd selected Master Clip rather than Segment in Symphony color correction. But the fact that you posted in the Media Composer First forum threw me off, so I didn't answer, because I figured this was some weird MC First problem. 

    If you'd posted in the right forum, and if you had system specs listed in your profile, you'd have had an answer faster.

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  • Sat, Jan 27 2018 8:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: Stop Color Correction applying to all instances of a clip?

    Yes...I see.

    Actually the reason I posted in this forum was that I thought that "First" meant beginner. (I'd never heard of MCFirst)

    Even though I'm not exatly a beginner my question felt pretty basic

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