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  • Sat, Oct 7 2017 2:56 PM

    • dnext
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    Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    We were running MC 8.9.2 on a 2010 Mac Pro 12-core 2.66ghz Westmere 5,1 that suddenly died.

    Since we need to replace the computer quickly and can't wait until the new Mac Pros next year we are looking to purchase a used late 2013 Mac Pro 12-core 2.7ghz.

    That said, we could use some advice regarding the configuration for Media Composer and 4k performance particularly since we are working on more projects these days in UHD and need the sluggish performace we were getting from the 5,1 to improve.

    Should we not settle for less than 64mb internal memory or can we get by with 32mb?

    We see models with D500s and D700s, does going for the D700 improve MC performance enough in 4K to warrant the cost? 

    We are looking to pull our two Sonnet PCe ESATA cards from our current MacPro, install them in a Sonnet TB2 expansion chassis so we can bring our esata RAID drives online with the new computer. Will that work?

    And any other advice or issues we should be aware of?  Thanks

     

  • Sun, Oct 8 2017 11:17 AM In reply to

    • pierreh
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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    I would just get another similar machine (a 4,1 or 5,1) and transfer the drives and the pcie cards to it. Then update everything when the new Mac Pro ships - or move to PC if it's a disappointment.

    Too many stories of 2013s dying in one way or another. Also, MC won't take advantage of the GPU, so no point getting a dual-GPU (those love to fry anyway...)

    - Work: MacPro 2010 3.46Ghz 12 Cores 48Gig mem, int and ext Raids, Nitris DX, 10.11.6 - Home: MacBookPro 2.5Ghz quad-i7, 16Gig Mem and SSD OSX 10.9.5 [view my complete system specs]
  • Sun, Oct 8 2017 4:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    Appreciate the feedback. We were using the 2.66ghz model.  I see you're using a 2010 Mac Pro with a 3.46ghz CPU. Any issues with the faster CPU? We're consider replacing the non-working 2.66 tray with a 3.46ghz as well as replacing our 5870 with an R9 280x. If we remain with a replacement 5,1 we'd consider upping the internal memory to 128mb. Is that worth the expense? Thanks again for any advice.

  • Sun, Oct 8 2017 6:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    I have a Mac Pro 4,1 that I self ugraded to be a 5,1 Westmere (my home system).  I went from an 8 x 2.24 to a 12 x 2.93 GHZ.   In many ways this system blows away the trash can Mac Pro I use in my day job.

    If you are handy working inside computers, you can get a cheap 4,1 and upgrade it pretty inexpensively and easily these days.  Just another option.

    Mac Pro 5,1 (2009-firmware upgrade to 2010). Self upgraded to 12 core (2 x Hex Core Westmere 2.93Ghz) 32 GB Ram Mac OSX 10.11.3 Avid MC 8.5 NVIDIA... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Oct 9 2017 10:50 AM In reply to

    • pierreh
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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    Mine is also a 2009 flashed to be a 2010 since those were physically almost identical. And it has two 3.46 CPU. It makes it a very fast machine, especially with apps that can deal with multiple CPUs. It boots from a SSD drive located in the empty second DVD bay.

    The R9 280X is a great card, especially as it can be flashed to behave like it's an official Mac GPU. It's rather easy to do if you are tech oriented, or you can get a flashed one from eBay for a decent price. It works great with Media Composer (I'm having issues with my Nvidia) and FCP X can take advantage of it. It's not bad with Resolve because it's not CUDA like a Nvidia.

    Upping the memory only helps if you runs many apps at the same time as each app will never use that much. Mine has 48gig and that's plenty enough as I rarely run anything else than MC when I edit - ok, I have Safari in the background for new emails...

    - Work: MacPro 2010 3.46Ghz 12 Cores 48Gig mem, int and ext Raids, Nitris DX, 10.11.6 - Home: MacBookPro 2.5Ghz quad-i7, 16Gig Mem and SSD OSX 10.9.5 [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Oct 9 2017 4:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    Really appreciate the replies. All have been extremely helpful. Think we're going to take the advice and update via the 5,1 2010 route 12-Core 3.46 route.

    There's one last question about the R9 208x since it looks like it has an HDMI port.

    With Media Composer is it possible to run 2 27" Apple monitors and use the HDMI to feed a separate Sony HD monitor like we've been doing with our Black Magic DeckLink Mini Monitor card? Would love to free up that Black Magic slot if possible.

  • Tue, Oct 10 2017 3:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    I guess it would work if you're using the BMD just for TV monitoring. It would have to be through Full Screen Playback which has a couple of limitations - especially when it comes to multicam.

    I've used three monitors in the past, on older versions of MC with less powerfull hardware. So if it was possible then, it should still work now.

    - Work: MacPro 2010 3.46Ghz 12 Cores 48Gig mem, int and ext Raids, Nitris DX, 10.11.6 - Home: MacBookPro 2.5Ghz quad-i7, 16Gig Mem and SSD OSX 10.9.5 [view my complete system specs]
  • Tue, Oct 10 2017 5:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    I rebuilt my 2010 Mac Pro last winter with a 3.46 12-core processor, a new power supply and a new NVIDIA Quadro K5000.  I am VERY happy I spent the cash on this upgrade instead of a new Trash Can.  I purchased the CPU, new on ebay.  There were many options with parts trade-in and various configurations of RAM.  I got the power supply from an Apple parts warehouse and purchased the NVIDIA card from B&H.  This box is the fastest and most stable Mac I've used in 30+ years as a professional editor.  I would highly recommend upgrading while waiting to see what the new Mac Pro offers.

    Best of Luck!

    System #1: Media Composer 8.9.2 w/Symphony Option & Phrase Find/Avid Artist DNxIO/Mac Pro Mid 2012 12-Core 3.46 Ghz/OS10.12.3/64GB/1TB-SSD/Quadro K5000... [view my complete system specs]
  • Tue, Oct 10 2017 7:19 PM In reply to

    • Marianna
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    Re: Looking for Mac Pro configuration help

    Editmvp

    That sounds great that you were able to do that.  :)  

    Another option folks is a refurb on Apple.com   - they sell them with warranties etc....

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