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  • Sun, Jul 30 2017 12:28 AM

    • jcpro
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    MC and new 27" I mac i7

    I am getting ready to retire my old mackbook pro (2011) it has served me well. I am looking at a 2017 I Mac 27" with a i7 and a 2T fusion drive .are there anyone using this setup. I know the I mac pro is coming in December, but my budget will not work for that . are there problems running MC on this unit that I should know before I buy. I was also looking at a 2015 with the same specs any help will be greatly appreciated

  • Tue, Aug 1 2017 1:23 PM In reply to

    • Martin Fox
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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    I'm on a 2015 iMac with a 2 gb video card and 16 gb ram 2 tb fusion, I mostly do long form with the addition of posting multicam theatre events, which I generally do at hd 120. It's a bit slow if you try and edit with Ama linked footage, and you can forget trying to play h264 XAVC footage.

    I find it a very productive machine, I hardly ever have problems. I find transcoding to be slow, and background transcoding while foreground editing to be very underpowered. The i7 is very fast at transcoding to h264 as long as you do it externally to the avid, (my workflow is to export an Ama op atom Mxf and transcode that, or do a mixdown and export that as a ref QuickTime)

    The UI is really hard to use on the retina screen, so I use the retina for bins and a 1920 x1200 screen for the composer.

    I hope this is useful, I'm happy to answered more specific questions, 

    martin

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  • Fri, Aug 4 2017 7:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    Thank you for your help.I just have one more question about the display. you said you use the 5k screen just for you timeline and that the ui is un useable do you mean the you cant see it or is it blury or unstable to watch. is it worth investing in it if you can't view. the hi res screen is one of thr reasons I was going to purchase it .thanks for your help

  • Wed, Aug 9 2017 5:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    I'm also considering the new iMac 27", probably 16GB ram and 3TB fusion. Some tests show this to be faster than current entry level MacPro, so that's attractive. I hope to use a new Ultrawide 34" LG as my bin and timeline monitor, and the iMac's 27" 5K display as "permanent" full screen playback. Anyone tried this yet?

    Any advice would be welcome.

    MC 8.9.3 (Symph) on iMac 4.2. i7 40GB (OSX 10.13.1). Also MC 7.0.5 on MacPro 2.66 11 GB (OSX 10.7.5) [view my complete system specs]

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  • Wed, Aug 9 2017 5:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    I'm in a similar situation. My research shows the most annoying issue is connectivity to legacy periferals like ESATA and Firewire hard drives. Unless you can use the USB3 ports, you need adaptors for everything, including Thunderbolt 2. Thunderbolt 3 (which actually seems to be USB-C) periferals and converters are few and far between.

    MC 8.9.3 (Symph) on iMac 4.2. i7 40GB (OSX 10.13.1). Also MC 7.0.5 on MacPro 2.66 11 GB (OSX 10.7.5) [view my complete system specs]

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  • Wed, Aug 9 2017 6:51 AM In reply to

    • Martin Fox
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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    I use the Mac 5k screen for bins , and my second 1920 x1280 screen for timeline and composer window , because the UI is too small on the retina screen. (Many threads on this forum about needing a scalable UI)

    However I notice the new version of composer 8.9 now supports a scale-able Ui , note that your second screen has to be the same rez though. 

    I use a thunderbolt adapter for eSata and fire wire, I recommend the caldigit station 3, I have a akitio adapter and wish I had bought the caldigit. 

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  • Wed, Aug 9 2017 6:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    Avid has announced the scale-able UI for the new version 8.9, check the second monitor rez requirements for the scaling to work, it states something like; both monitors need to be the same rez.

    i would suggest using the mac screen for bins and full screen playback and switching full screen on as you need it, I like the image scale change when I watch a cut full screen, it wakes me up a little.

    iMac Retina27 late 2014 4Gz i7 16GB AMD R9 2GB with Sata Raid OS 10.11.6 MC 8.6.4 BMD mini monitor with Eizo monitor [view my complete system specs]
  • Sat, Sep 2 2017 10:42 AM In reply to

    • tommix
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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    Sorry to intrude with a question from a friend

    Assume a 27", 16gb, fusion drive, but without any graphics card installed. The i5  CPU has a GPU on-board, but will MC use it, even if slow, or will MC simply not run because there is no GPU "card."

    Thank you.

  • Tue, Sep 5 2017 5:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    Tommix

    When you launch media composer it looks for greater than 2GB GPU memory. If that is good it does a transfer to GPU test. If that passes it turns on the GPU acceleration. If one of these tests doesn’t pass it doesn’t turn on GPU acceleration.

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  • Thu, Sep 7 2017 2:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC and new 27" I mac i7

    Thank you Marianna,

    The important thing to know is that MCF will not refuse to run if there is no GPU.

    I would expect my friend will transcode HD h.264 media to ProRes 422 overnight. Time is not an issue for her.

     

    Two questions -- marketing shows that with OSX MCF can export ProRes 422. But that seems to be not true. Will Avid support this feature later--or has it's changed it's mind?

     

    Likewise, will DNxHD export support 48kHz audio in a future version or has Avid decided to stay with 44.1kHz?

    Steve Mullen

     

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