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  • Tue, Feb 28 2017 2:46 PM

    • PreteMedia
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    Building Custom PC

    Hi,

    I am currently upgrading my hardware and am looking at building a PC from the ground up.  I will be working mostly HD but also will have several projects originating on 4K.  I also do a fair amount of Adobe After Effects work along with Premiere Pro and Adobe Encoder.  I'm looking to build the system with an internal raid for media.

    Below is a link to the build with parts picked out.  Looking for comments and suggestions.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MoonFartFlam/saved/8XfkLk

     

    1. Should I wait to see what NVIDEA has to offer in a few weeks with the new P series graphic card?

    2. On the internal raid will I be better off using a pcie raid controller card or will the onboard raid conroller on the Supermicro MOBO suffice?

    3. According the the MOBO specs it will support Thunderbolt 2 technology.  Does anyone have any experience with pcie thunderbolt cards and performance.

    Any other info or comments are welcome.

    Thanks

    John

  • Tue, Feb 28 2017 8:57 PM In reply to

    • videoguy
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    that looks like a pretty solid system, but be warned. Building a dual xeon machine is a bot more complicated then snapping together a DIY gaming / video editing system. Stuff like physics - weight, leverage and heat become critical. Air flow is madatory. 

    Have you looked into just getting an HP Z 840 workstation. Check out the specs on this Videoguyss Tech Select for $4,995

    VIDEOGUYS TECH SELECT HP Z840 DUAL OCTO-CORE WITH QUADRO M4000

    http://www.videoguys.com/shop/allbrands/brands-d-h/hp-workstations/hp-z840/hp-z840-under-5k.html

    • Dual Octo-Core Xeon E5-2620v4 2.1 2133
    • 32GB (4x8) DDR4-2400
    • 256GB Solid State Boot Drive
    • NVIDIA Quadro M4000 8GB 4xDP
    • Slim Blu-ray Writer
    • HP 15-In-1 Media Card Reader
    • Thunderbolt 2
    • Upgraded 1125w Power Supply
    • Now with Windows 10 Pro
    • 3/3/3 Year Onsite Warranty
    Add in a G-Tech thunderbolt RAID 12TB for $599.95

    Feel free to call me with any questions you may have 800-323-2325 

     

    Gary

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  • Wed, Mar 1 2017 3:47 PM In reply to

    • PreteMedia
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    So now I am thinking about the choice of video card.  I know the NVIDIA Quadro M4000 will work but seeing that I am also using this system for After Effects and Premiere Pro does anyone have any thoughts on the new GTX 1080 Ti? 

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/nvidia-geforce-1080ti-will-launch-for-699-next-week/

    Any comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    John

  • Wed, Mar 1 2017 4:15 PM In reply to

    • Atomike
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    The GTX 1080 Ti is cheaper, and looks like it will be a beast. 

    In theory, it should work fine with a Media Composer machine.  My only worry would be the fact that it's not 100% supported, and so every time I have any little problem with my PC, I would wonder if it was because I wasn't using a Quadro card.

    But yes, you are right, it seems like a much better choice on paper.  I just realistically want to be the first guy to try it.

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  • Wed, Mar 1 2017 4:19 PM In reply to

    • videoguy
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    GTX1080 is a beast and fantastic valeu. It kicks Adobe software into a whole nutha gear.

    Gary

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  • Wed, Mar 1 2017 5:24 PM In reply to

    • scocklin
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    Why not both?  The M4000 for GUI and the GTX1080 for GPU.  Not only improving performance for After Effects but also increasing render times in Resolve for those 4K outputs.

    I'm running the K4000 and GTX780, I need to get my render speeds up in Resolve, right now depending on nodes I'm rendering anywhere from 3 to 10FPS with the GTX780 running as my GPU, I just read that Nvidia starts selling this month the new GTX1080 Ti with a street price of around $700. Not a bad price for a card that specs out better than the Titan X.

     

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11172/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-next-week-699

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  • Thu, Mar 2 2017 1:49 PM In reply to

    • Pheral
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    PreteMedia:

    Below is a link to the build with parts picked out.  Looking for comments and suggestions.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MoonFartFlam/saved/8XfkLk

    I'm pretty sure that Supermicro motherboard won't fit in the Corsair case you've selected.  The X10DAX is an EATX form factor, and the case is ATX.  I've built a couple of DP systems based on the Supermicro boards, and I can tell you that I've always had better luck when I've matched them with Supermicro cases.

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  • Tue, Mar 7 2017 1:58 PM In reply to

    • Mark
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    Stumbled across this while looking for something else:

    http://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/videoediting

    Hope it's useful,

    /mp

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  • Tue, Mar 7 2017 10:41 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    one thing i can recomment are pseudo watercooled gpus

     

    no fuss, but allows you to keep the heat away from pricey raid cards.

     

    isn't available for 1080ti yet.

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  • Wed, Mar 8 2017 12:04 AM In reply to

    • Mondo
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    Re: Building Custom PC

    PreteMedia:

    Below is a link to the build with parts picked out.  Looking for comments and suggestions.

    https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MoonFartFlam/saved/8XfkLk

    Just looking at what you now have for a $1000 more you can get a dual XEON with an HP backed 3/3/3 warranty - I reckon I'd go for that. It has ECC memory (OK not as much as yours) an M4000 which may not be as quick as the 1080Ti but I can vouch for the Z840 - its very well engineered, especially when it comes to cooling and serviceability.

    The warranty is worth at least 500 on it's own..

    and for $600 more you can get a 12TB RAID which is a much better way to store your media than internally..

    Yes it's more but I've experienced the NBD onsite warranty and its fantastic - both for my current machine and an older laptop...

    HP Z820 16GB RAM Winx64Pro SP1/Xeon 2620 x 2/Quadro 4000 NitrisDX, Fiber client Unity client 5.3 Build 15440, 4 bay SSD dock (Addonics) Custom build: Asus... [view my complete system specs]

    John

    Can we go back to the way audio nodes used to be selected? Please? ie if you have audio nodes at the same time on selected tracks; then selecting 1 audio node selects them all at that time. Having to shift select nodes or add an in and out is time consuming and counter productive. At least make it an option.

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