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  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 1:15 AM

    • Karim
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    Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    I'm working with HP machine at my office with Avid MC 8, and i need to built my own computer to run smoothly avid MC8 because i go to spend half of my time to work at home. 

    For some reasons, (upgrade, other software running)  i prefer to go with a windows machine, in a DIY way, with a GTX 1080. But i'm afraid of the incompatibilities with Avid.

    Is someone here have a kind of DIY list of components, like the best motheboards etc...

    It will be helpfull !

    Thanks. 

     

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 3:30 PM In reply to

    • DStone
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    There's no one best MOBO etc. when it comes to building your own system (and remember that a DIY won't be qualified by Avid for support). There are a lot of different configurations out there (my own is a DIY). About the only advice I can give you is to look for something wihich holds lots of fast memory, can take multiple high-end video cards (if you're going to ever run something like Resolve), support Thunderbolt and/or USB 3.1 for easy expansion,

    Put it this way; if I were to start a new build today, I'd probably use a Gigabyte Z170X SOC Force MOBO to start, an Intel I7-6700 Skylake CPU, 64GB DDR4 3333 memory,(3) Samsung 960 Pro 1Tb M.2 (running as a 3TB RAID0), (2) GTX 1080 and (1) GTX 1070 (the main display), Thunderbolt add-in card, and a 48Gb G-Speed RAID. For backup I think the Sony Optical Disk Archive is currently the best solution.

    Total cost: around $16,000 (of which $11,500 is the G-Speed and Optical Disk Backup). The system itself is about $5,000 (note that this is still not a complete system; I didn't spec. in the power supply, system drive, ancillary other drives, I/O device etc.) Is this thing overkill? It depends on what you're actually using it for (this thing is spec'd out for multiple 4K streams or small, lightweight 8K projects).

    If you don't anticipate heavy use of Resolve, yo can get by with a single GTX 1080. The G-Speed can be swapped out for SSDs running as a RAID, and hard drives for media storage (and if you don't need excessive use of 4K then (4) 7200 RPM drives in a RAID 0 works).  Don't skimp on memory; 16Gb is a minimum. Don't omit USB 3.1 and/or Thunderbolt; it's the easiest way to add fast storage. If you can get a system with M.2 capability, it's extremely fast even for a single card (makes a good render drive).

    Almost any modern system will run MC. If you base your DIY over what's in a qualified system, you probably can't go wrong. The biggest issues are I/O throughput for media drives, the video card, and the I/O device chosen. This is why Avid has a qualified system list; they've tested it and guarantees it works.

    DIY quad core I7-4790K, 32Gb, NVidia GTX 970 4GB, Win 10 Pro, MC(generally the latest or the one just before), MC 7.x [view my complete system specs]

    Dave S.

  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 5:18 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    if you pm me, i can give you blueprints for a supermicro based socked 2011 machine.

     

    i bulit 5 of them this year, all a-ok. (windows update horseshit aside)

    MC 2018.12.2 Cusom bulid Supermicro X9SRL-F, 32 Gig Ram, 3ware 9750 6x6TB Seagate EC Drives, LSI 9207 + LTO-6, Mojo DX, Artist Color, Flanders CM240, GTX... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 5:23 PM In reply to

    • LDV20
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Been looking also to upgrade my avid computer - wondering what people think of this MB:

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    ASUS X99-DELUXE II LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

     

    or this one

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 6:08 PM In reply to

    • Lukas Boeck
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    i doesn't matter

     

    they're gamer motherboards geared for overclocking.

    those are all solid capacitators, which should increase life expectancy.

     

    i prefer server boards that can't overvclock but are tested against most storage controllers.

    https://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10SRA-F.cfm

     

    ECC ram isn't a bad idea if you're pushing terrabyts of data.

     

    MC 2018.12.2 Cusom bulid Supermicro X9SRL-F, 32 Gig Ram, 3ware 9750 6x6TB Seagate EC Drives, LSI 9207 + LTO-6, Mojo DX, Artist Color, Flanders CM240, GTX... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 7:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Supermicro is also a really nice MOBO. Just be careful in that some of them use a non-standard form factor requiring a SuperMicro case. Also AFAIK none of them have USB 3.1, and only some of them have the header for a Thunderbolt AOC. Also bear in mind that many of the SuperMicro boards are Xeon based, so they're really meant for professional work, not gaming (I recommend a dedicated editing platform anyway; my DIY is strictly for A/V editing and I have a second Dell system for general use).

    DIY quad core I7-4790K, 32Gb, NVidia GTX 970 4GB, Win 10 Pro, MC(generally the latest or the one just before), MC 7.x [view my complete system specs]

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 10:41 PM In reply to

    • Karim
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Thanks guys to be so responsive and helpfull. I can see more clearly now.

    I have other interrogations :

    - Are the last nvidia GTX 1060/80 or so will be a headhache to setup ? As i'm also running other editing programs using Cuda, i prefer not to go with a Quadro. 

    - As i gonna just use Avid for long but very simple editing (in fact pre-editing  at home before post prod in my office where i go with HP high end qualifie worstations), do i need to go with a I7 or a I5 at 3,5 (k version for example) could be enought to run ?

    Thanks again. Smile

     

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  • Mon, Nov 7 2016 10:49 PM In reply to

    • Karim
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Thanks Dave. I can feel how pro you are.

    Did you have any issues with GTX  in your DIY ? I can read here and there on french forum (i'm french anyway) that MC 8x is more tolerante with -no quadro - cards ? But i'm afraid it is just the 2 cents of non-pro users.

    Thanks again. 

     

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  • Tue, Nov 8 2016 12:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

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    Any feedbacxk on this board

     

    GIGABYTE X99-Designare EX (Intel X99) Motherboard  another possible board

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  • Tue, Nov 8 2016 4:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Avid has dropped the requirement for Quadro cards. Instead of a Qualified Boards list, there's now a Disqualified Boards list. Currently on that list are:

                                       : NVIDIA :         : 361.91
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro K620    : NVIDIA : K620
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro 1000M   : NVIDIA : 1000M
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro 2000M   : NVIDIA : 2000M
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro K1000M  : NVIDIA : K1000M
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro K2000M  : NVIDIA : K2000M
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro K620M   : NVIDIA : K620M
    NVIDIA Corporation--Quadro M500M   : NVIDIA : M500M
    AMD Corporation--AMD FirePro W2100 : AMD    : W2100

    So NVidia driver 361.91 is not supported, nor are the listed Quadro and AMD cards. Note that Avid does not test the GTX cards, but I'm sure that ones that don't work will be added as users report them.

    My GTX works quite well. It's been reported that the GTX 1080 works very well.

    The Gigabyte X99 Designer EX board is really nice (I might have to consider that one over the one I originally spec'ed). I like that it has the U.2 connectors, Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1 and (3) PCIe X16 slots. I also really like the Ultra Durable PCIe connectors. Big graphics cards put a lot of strain on the PCIe connector.

    It really does come down to what you're doing. If you're editing HD, then this is overkill (my current system edits multiple streams of HD without issues). If you're editing 4K (or planning to), then really fast I/O throughput is critical and this board is a good place to start. For 8K, this is underpowered (as I mentioned earlier; good for 1 stream simple edit 8K). 8K really requires a system that can take an add-on PCIe extender case for lots of NVMe memory (and a dual Xeon wouldn't hurt either). Frankly for 8K I see proxy editing as the only way to go for now without an insane budget.

    DIY quad core I7-4790K, 32Gb, NVidia GTX 970 4GB, Win 10 Pro, MC(generally the latest or the one just before), MC 7.x [view my complete system specs]

    Dave S.

  • Wed, Nov 9 2016 5:55 AM In reply to

    • Cagey
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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    Frankly, I'm a bit shocked that all those Quadro cards are on the list. 

    Keith

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  • Wed, Nov 9 2016 11:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: Built my own Avid for MC 8.x

    The Gigabyte X99 board will be used mostly for HD and maybe a bit of 4K - right now 8K is not in the picture.

    As for 4K - really not evern set up for it in regards to monitoring and Hard drives maybe down the road. 

    thnaks

     

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