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  • Tue, Mar 8 2016 9:55 PM

    • Daniel O
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    Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Hey,

    What would be the most straight forward way to run 2x sets of stero monitoring out of an Artist IO ?

    I want a stero output for Audio monitors on Edit desk (Left, Right & sub)

    I also want another set of larger audio monitors a client review set (Left, Right & share the existing sub)

     

    Is this easily doable ?

     

    Would probably have this mixing board :

     

    Mackie 1604VLZ4 16-Channel 4-Bus Compact Mixer

     

    Would like to have just the one sub shared between both sets of audio monitors, and would like to be able to control output level to each set via the mixer, so only one set of speakers would be active at once.

     

    Any advice greatly apreciated,

    Thanks,

    Dan

     

  • Tue, Mar 8 2016 10:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Do the speakers have 2.1 inputs, meaning L, R and dedicated LFE?

    Others can correct me, but Avid software and Artist IO do not support dedicated LFE output.

    Usually for 2.1 output, you send full range stereo to the subwoofer (or receiver) and let that filter LFE from the L/R channel.

    For your original question, the 1604 has MAIN OUTS, CONTROL ROOM and SUB OUTS (not to be confused for subwoofer) that can be utilized to feed speakers. It all depends on your needs. So it is possible to have 3 sets of stereo speakers with separate volume control using the 1604.

    Can you elaborate about sharing the sub. Are you using 2 sets of speakers that are exactly the same? Which ones? How do you plan to wire it?

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  • Tue, Mar 8 2016 10:32 PM In reply to

    • Daniel O
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    Re: Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Hey,

     

    Sub would be something like this :

    Genelec 7050B 

     

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/386527-REG/Genelec_7050B_7050B_8_Active.html

     

    Edit desk would have a smaller set of Genelecs, and Client monitor would have a slightly larger set of Genelecs.

    If I fed stero out from ARTIST IO into the LFE (SUB) Could I cheat and call the client set "REAR left and right" and the edit desk "Front left and right"  ?

    Then feed all into the mixer, Would also like a master volume control like an SPL volume 8 that can sit on desk under the monitors.

     

    Does this sound workable ?

     

    Thanks,

    Dan

     

     

  • Tue, Mar 8 2016 10:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Since you (will) have a mixer (the 1604) with several outputs, I would route two stereo sets of outputs (say bus 1/2 and bus 3/4) to the Genelec sub (which has 5 inputs plus an LFE input), indeed "cheating" one pair of them as L Rear and R Rear, and the other as Front L and Front R.

    * You will need to set bass roll-off for the main channel outs to avoid frequency overlapping <- this is why Genelec only recommends this sub be used with really small desktop speakers. Other Genelec subs have a proper bass management system built in, but not the 7050, which only lets you set roll-offs on the outputs.

    But say you have your DNxIO L&R out coming in on two channel strips on the 1604, you can assign these to either bus 1/2 (speakers on your edit desk) or bus 3/4 (client speakers), or both. In either case the signal goes via the Genelec bass management.

    I don't think you would need an SPL controller, since the Mackie would give you master faders for the buses. I would suggest you use those to control monitor level. Ideally you would then calibrate the speaker inputs so that the 0-position on the faders would correspond with a reference level.

    The biggest challenge IMHO will be finding the right spot for the sub, as it will likely be less optimal for one of the two monitoring setups. Placing a sub properly is not easy at all, let alone finding a place that supports two different listening positions in a single room.

    A lesser problem, but still a bit tricky is that you want to use larger speakers for one position, and smaller ones for the other position. This likely requires you need to compromise, as they may require a different cross-over frequency.

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  • Tue, Mar 8 2016 11:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Edit: Job answered it nicely.

    Let the subwoofer do the LFE management. Subwoofer calibration will be difficult using 2 different kind of speakers in 2 different locations.

     

     

     

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  • Sat, Mar 12 2016 11:38 AM In reply to

    • SchnittKontor_HH
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    Re: Artist IO - Audio Monitoring Editor and Client set of speakers ??

    Hi,

    this this is a nice new Genelec/SAM setup that fulfil your needs.

    The subwoofer (7350) has two Inputs (Analog and AES EBU) and you can save different measurements from each monitor position.

    http://www.genelec.com/studio-monitors/sam-compact-studio-monitors

     

     

     

    http://www.genelec.com/studio-monitors/sam-studio-subwoofers/7350a-sam-studio-subwoofer


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