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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 12:21 PM

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    Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Hey,

    I have an MC project with its corresponding Avid Media Files folder on the root of an external hard drive. I would like to create a new folder on this drive and then drop these media files inside it. 

    How do I then re-point Media Composer to associate this moved Avid Media Files folder with my project?

    I am new to Media Composer. 

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 1:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    \Avid MediaFiles\MXF\1 "must" be at the root level of the volume.  It cannot be inside another folder.

    When the media is in the correct location, it automtically relinks.

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 2:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    I misunderstood how the Avid Medial File system worked. I am wanting to work on several different projects with all their media stored on the same external hard drive. Can you sugged an appropriate workflow?

    This person suggests renaming folders at AvidMediaFiles/MXF/... to something more meaningful to correspond with a project. For example AvidMediaFiles/MXF/Project 1 or AvidMediaFiles/MXF/Project 2.
    http://robgwilson.com/2011/02/16/quick-avid-tip-rename-your-mxf-folders/

    Is this an appropriate workflow? If I carry out this renaming will Avid automatically detect the change? Or I will have to do some pointing? 

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 3:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    One method would be to create seperate partitions on your external disk, perhaps named after your individual projects. Each partition could then have the \AvidMediafiles\MXF\1 folder. Just mount the partition required for the current project.

  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 3:26 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Thanks. Is there any way of doing this without having to create partitions? I am looking for a quick and easy option. Would the mehtod I suggested above work? I feel partitions would be inappropriate and a little bit of an overkill in my particular sittuation.

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 3:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    There are some rules to remember with Avid media files:

    The folder structure from the root must be maintained.

    Within the MXF folder subfolders can exist.

    MC will always create new media into the 1 folder unless it is full in which case it moves onto the 2 folder then the 3 folder etc.

    A full folder is determined by the file count not size (I think it's currently 5000 files but it's better to keep the file count down to 2500 files)

    Avid can read the media and databases from any folder with a vlaid folder name (alpha numeric) but can only update the databases in folders with numeric names (1, 101, 10001, etc)

    In a shared storage setup the folder names reflect the workstation names (normally)

    So it is possible to "manage" media files but you have to follow the rules.

    I'd suggest looking at media mover.

     

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 3:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    So therefore if I wnated to start a project called PROJECT123 and have meaningful folder name in the Avid Media Files folder I could do the following:

    1. Create an PROJECT123 project and make it shared
    2. AMA link and then transcode media to external hard drive
    3. Go inside this hard drive and create a folder withint he Avid Media files caled PROJECT123
    4. Drag the numeric folder containing the MXF files into PROJECT123

    From now on, whenver I add more files to this project they will always go into the numeric folder at AvidMediaFiles/ PROJECT123/...

    If I wnated to repeat this for another proejct I just go through the same steps? and would therefore have tow subfolders in Avid Media Files: PROJECT123 and PROJECT 1234? Is this correct? 

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 3:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Not quite.  Refer back to Pat's previous post.  ALL new media will ALWAYS go to the \Avid MediaFiles\MXF\1 folder unless it is full.  Then it will go to the next numbered subfolder with available space.  AVID wil NOT refresh the media databases in any subfolders that have been renamed with Alpha characters.

    IF you were on a PC you could trick the system into thinking a subfolder on the drive is actually a drive, but I don't know if you can do that on a Mac.

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 4:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Don't try to manage media manually by remembering (or tracking) which project went to which folder. When you import, transcode, or whatever, Media Composer puts it wherever it wants anyway. 

    Try this:

    Dump your MXF's into new numbered folders under "../Avid MediaFiles/MXF". For example:

    ../Avid MediaFiles/MXF/2
    ../Avid MediaFiles/MXF/3

    Then use Media Mover or MDV to sift out projects when you archive. AE's can also use this to send projects to other editors.

    Here's how to get MDV going in OS X. (Still works under Mavericks.) And if you plan on using MDV, keep your project names 39 characters or less.

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 8:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Because you're on a Mac, you could also make use of Symbolic Links.

    Create an Avid MediaFiles folder on your drive (you don't need an MXF folder at this point)

    next, Make a folder named PROJECT123-MediaFiles 

    inside that make an MXF folder

    next Open Terminal and type "ln -s" (minus the quotes) 

    now drag the MXF folder into the Terminal window

    Then drag the Avid MediaFiles folder into the Terminal

    hit Enter

     

    you should now have an MXF folder inside your Avid MediaFiles folder that looks like an Alias or shortcut. That MXF lives inside your PROJECT123-MediaFiles folder.

    when you have to work on PROJECT456, simply delete the MXF shortcut and make a new one from the steps above. 

    there is a plug-in available that adds "Make Symbolic Link" to your right-click context menu, you could google for it. But using the Terminal command is just as quick once you've gotten the hang of it.  

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  • Wed, Feb 19 2014 8:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Here is an excerpt from a document I wrote up for one of my clients:

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    Create a Symbolic Link to another folder 

    Scenario: Avid requires that the Avid MediaFiles folder live at the root level of the hard 
    drive in order for it to read the media, however a situation may present itself 
    where that is not the case. Avid will not be able to read the media because the MediaFiles folder is buried in 
    subfolders. Creating a Symbolic Link is a way to trick Avid into thinking the MediaFiles folder lives at the root of 
    the drive. 

    Use the Terminal command: ln -s (source) (destination) 

    An example:

    On DRIVE_XYZ there is a folder named Archive_05. 
    Inside Archive_05 is an Avid MediaFiles folder. I want Avid to access the media that is 
    inside this folder. 

    In Terminal, I type: 
    ln -s and drag the source folder (ie, DRIVE_XYZ/Archive_05/Avid MediaFiles/MXF) into the Terminal window. Then, I drag the destination folder into the Terminal window. (ie, DRIVE_XYZ/Avid MediaFiles)



    It should look something like:

    ln -s /Volumes/DRIVE_XYZ/Archive_05/Avid\ MediaFiles/MXF /Volumes/DRIVE_XYZ/Avid\ MediaFiles

    (I colored the Source Path yellow and the Destination Path orange for clarity)


    When you press Enter, you should see a folder 
    named MXF appear inside the Avid MediaFiles folder at the root level of DRIVE_XYZ. This new MXF folder will have an 
    Alias icon on it as it is now a shortcut to the MXF folder inside DRIVE_XYZ/Avid MediaFiles


    Warning: Any media that you create and send to 
    DRIVE_XYZ will get placed inside the Archive_05/Avid MediaFiles/MXF folder, so if 
    that is not your intention remember to kill the Linked folder before writing 
    any media to the drive. You can kill the 
    link by Trashing the shortcut folder.

     

    DO NOT TRASH THE ORIGINAL MXF FOLDER!!

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Daniel Finn:
    I am wanting to work on several different projects with all their media stored on the same external hard drive. Can you sugged an appropriate workflow?

    You can find information on tutorials that describe how to manage such a setup HERE

    Start by watching 20_00 by clicking on the "Pre amble" button

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  • Thu, Feb 20 2014 11:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Thanks. Symbolic links definatley sound like the way forward in my sittuation. I do admit it took me two or three reads to get my head around it but I now fully understand.

    Will be fast and easy to impliment and will just mean an extra 30 seconds or so before I open Media Composer. Also means I won't have to install any apps or plug-ins.

    I am used to working within Avid Pro Tools whereby all projects / session are self contained and there isn't that much need for any additional media management. Was just a little bit confusing starting with Media Composer as file structures are drastically different.

    Great solution! 

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  • Thu, Feb 20 2014 2:37 PM In reply to

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    Happy to help!

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  • Thu, Feb 20 2014 5:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Moving Avid Media Files and re-pointing Avid to them

    Sounds cool. I wonder:

    1. How would this affect project archiving? Could MediaMover or MDV resolve the symbolic links?

    2. What if the source drive isn't fast enough (like those small USB portables)? Wouldn't you have to dump it to a high-performance drive anyway?

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