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  • Sun, Sep 1 2013 10:35 PM

    • Patrick
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    So about this 4k thing...

    It seems that UHD and DCI 4k are on the way in. I'm not sure about 4k DCPs as I'm no longer in the industry in any meaningful way, but UHD televisions are coming down in price fast. I reckon the timeframe in which this will replace HD and be the dominant format in both TV and movie theaters is still something on the order of 6-8 years, but it does appear to be coming.

    I don't currently have an I/O card or box, and I feel like buying one that isn't 4k capable now would mean having to buy something that was in a couple of years (or maybe sooner). The current options seem to be the blackmagic decklink, the aja kona, and the bluefish supernova. Does anyone have any thoughts or input on how this all might go down, and whether or not there might be other options out there or on the horizon?

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  • Mon, Sep 2 2013 12:06 AM In reply to

    • hbrock
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    Re: So about this 4k thing...

    First off, that I/O card is only going to be doing "O" to feed a monitor.  Since any 4K format is file based, you won't be doing any baseband capturing.

    Second, Media Composer is currently limited to HD resolutions at this time so any I/O is going to be limited to HD.

    Third, the newly announced but as yet unreleased Mac Pro can drive multiple 4K displays.  Not that they'd be Video displays, but if things start to shift to RGB levels with 4K it won't really matter much any more.

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  • Mon, Sep 2 2013 12:52 AM In reply to

    • Patrick
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    Re: So about this 4k thing...

    hbrock:

    First off, that I/O card is only going to be doing "O" to feed a monitor.  Since any 4K format is file based, you won't be doing any baseband capturing.

    Second, Media Composer is currently limited to HD resolutions at this time so any I/O is going to be limited to HD.

    Third, the newly announced but as yet unreleased Mac Pro can drive multiple 4K displays.  Not that they'd be Video displays, but if things start to shift to RGB levels with 4K it won't really matter much any more.

    1)Yes, I'm thinking about a monitoring solution. I apologize for not making that clear. 

    2) Yes, I know media composer is limited to HD, which means that for resolutions above 1920 x 1080, a variation on the offline/online paradigm is called for in which the higher resolution camera media is conformed to the lower resolution avid media in another application. I'd like to be able to view that high resolution media.

    3) I guess it sort of depends on whether or not those hypothetical 4k monitors are RGB or rec 2020. I mean, for cutting I don't care, but I'd like to have a colour critical client monitor.

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  • Mon, Sep 2 2013 4:19 AM In reply to

    • Svenbox
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    Re: So about this 4k thing...

    I'm shooting with RED Epic all the time, which is great for many reasons. Above all it's the RAW-format, which gives you many possibilities in post. But after processing to DNxHD I never go back. Even when I offer the RAW files to the color graders at ARRI they say DNxHD is fine for them. 

    ULtraHD is just another hype, like 3D was, so I wouldn't bother. Only with 55" sets and bigger you will see a difference and only if you sit very close. The TV-industry is having big problems, because the markets are saturated, so they come up with UltraHD. No one will care. One day 4K monitors will be a 1000 bucks and the Avid upgrade will be 200$, just like it was with HD. Maybe then, when I'm totally bored, I might think about a new tv-set.

    With movie theatre it'll be the same. Why invest money, if everybody is totally satisfied with 2K? Within the next years there won't be much change.

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