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  • Mon, Jan 7 2013 2:49 PM

    • mkj
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    auto audio leveling in Avid?

    Hi

    Have a project that dont have time to send their material for Audio adjusments, so they use Adobe Audition to leveling the audio in a finished projekct to -10.

    So workflow today is:

    Audio export from Avid. 

    Import to Adobe Audition

    leveling to -10 with a Waves plugin

    Export from Adobe Audition

    Import to Avid.

     

    Is there any smarter and faster way to do this?

    BR

  • Mon, Jan 7 2013 3:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    what about the "normalize" audio suite effect?

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    You can use the compressor limiter on either a clip or track basis -- but it's a quick and dirty workaround for something that should be done properly.

  • Mon, Jan 7 2013 3:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    What is the most proper way in your eyes?

    Why we let the editors do it this way is because of very short time between mastering - broadcast. (it's a weekly live show)

  • Mon, Jan 7 2013 4:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    well don't you have to mix them according to ebu R 128 for your broadcaster?

    if you have to, I'ld let them create a stereo mixdown and use the audio grimm plugin "levelnorm". fast. simple. easy.

    you can't tweak and control very much with this plugin, but on the other hand, you can't make much mistakes....

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    Best normal way is to aaf the material to a protools workstation and use the advanced hardware and software tools plus the skilled ears of a dedicated audio engineer/artist.

     

    2nd best is to find a good ballpark on each clip, EQ and filter as necessary, fine tune the mix using autogain or rubber banding.  Add in a little compressor/limiter if necessary.  (Too compressed sounds awful.)  Then legalise to standards.   --You know, mixing.Wink

     

    mkj:

    (it's a weekly live show)

     

    So these are roll-ins?  How long are the pieces?

     

  • Mon, Jan 7 2013 6:34 PM In reply to

    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    Our audio finishing is normally happening at the smae time as the online contorm so it's no longer to do it right. We have the loudness tools in the Protools as well so we can be sure we're compiant.

    But yu can achieve the same in MC as the plugins will work there it's just a faff as you need to do mixdowns etc.

     

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    Re: auto audio leveling in Avid?

    mkj:
    leveling to -10 with a Waves plugin
    You can do the same in Media Composer. Just make sure to get the AudioSuite version of that plugin you're using in Audition, and apply it to a mixdown of your show.

    If you're brickwall limiting (Waves L1 or L2), you might want to take a look at Massey's L2007. Much bang for the buck, and works inside MC / SY.

    As others mentioned, brickwall limiting is slowly going away, and you may very soon be required to deliver in EBU R128 or ATSC A/85. Indeed Grimm Audio's LevelNorm is an affordable, easy way to get your mix to comply to either of those.

    In general, if time is of the essence and you are not in a position to get your show through a separate audio room, it makes sense to invest a little in the room and workflow. Meaning that you should try to calibrate your room to a certain comfortable level (say 75dB or so). Then teach your editors to not change the monitoring volume dial while working, but keeping that monitoring level consistent and balance all the production sound, sound fx, voice overs and music while cutting them into the sequence. You could even use very moderate compression on the dialogue and VO tracks (don't overdo it). This way, you should be able to get a mix that sounds nice, and it should be quite painless to run it through LevelNorm. If your you would your editors to feel more comfortable when mixing, you should try to dampen the early reflections in the room by placing some acousitic panels, like those by GiK Acoustics.

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