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  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 3:59 AM

    • Mikee Carpinter
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    MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Hi there

    Just installed MC 6.0.3 hoping that the issue I have been having of avid mc 6 running to slow to use with the black magic Decklink HD Extreme 3D card was gone.

    Sadly it's still the same.

     

    When in trim mode it still takes about 2 seconds to catch up on each trim I make.

    And in color correction mode, moving around the timeline just stutters and pauses!

    When turning hardware(blackmagic card) off with new hardware fuction on off button, the software runs perfectly.

     

    Can anyone tell me if this will ever work smoothly or should I just go back to avid 5.5.3 and reinstall my matrox mini?

     

     

    Running Lion 10.7.4

    Blackmagic Desktop 9.5.3

    Decklink HD Extreme 3D

    With a quadr0 4000 gfx card.

     

    Cheers

    Mac Pro 2008 Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors AVID MC 5.5 Davinci Resolve 8.2 Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU NVidia 8800 Display Black Magic... [view my complete system specs]
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  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 7:27 AM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    yup, i think trimming actually got slower in this release with Black Magic drivers 9.5.3. The newest 9.5.1 drivers are useless at the rate things have been going, not holding my breath for a quick fix. 

      Its seems like everytime avid updates, black magic has to tweak and fix and vice versa, but it doesnt seem like there working together on it. 

     

     

     

    1.Imac i7 mid 2011 - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2 - Intensity Extreme driver 9.6.8. - Pegasus R6 2.MacPro 5.1 8core - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 8:58 AM In reply to

    • Mikee Carpinter
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    this really is a let down. how can blackmagic and avid advertise these products working together when the cleary don't.

     

    Mac Pro 2008 Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors AVID MC 5.5 Davinci Resolve 8.2 Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU NVidia 8800 Display Black Magic... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 3:16 PM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    what makes it even worse is that ive tested the Blackmagic drivers in just about every supported NLE and they all work as adverstised. FCP 7, PPro 5.5 and 6, Davinci, and even yes, the highly unprofessional 299.00 FCP X..they all work great, and the BM drivers dont limit there functionality, only add to it. Makes me think its not Black Magic, who are pretty on top of there drivers and update amost every 2 weeks. 

    Even worse, its not specific to Blackmagic at all. Matrox and even AJA users are reporting nothing but headaches, In fact BM's probably works the best of the 3. 

    When you announce something like OPEN /IO as a  flagship feature, and heavily market it then it better work, especially now what 10 months and 3 point releases later, especually as its like a really basic feature of an NLE. 

    Would really love some clarification as to what prioority this is in getting a fix. 

     

     

     

     

    1.Imac i7 mid 2011 - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2 - Intensity Extreme driver 9.6.8. - Pegasus R6 2.MacPro 5.1 8core - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 7:57 PM In reply to

    • Mikee Carpinter
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Anyone from avid reading this thread wish to pitch in please?

     

    Mac Pro 2008 Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors AVID MC 5.5 Davinci Resolve 8.2 Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU NVidia 8800 Display Black Magic... [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 13 2012 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Bueller ? 

    1.Imac i7 mid 2011 - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2 - Intensity Extreme driver 9.6.8. - Pegasus R6 2.MacPro 5.1 8core - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2... [view my complete system specs]
  • Wed, Aug 15 2012 3:17 PM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    bump.

    1.Imac i7 mid 2011 - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2 - Intensity Extreme driver 9.6.8. - Pegasus R6 2.MacPro 5.1 8core - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Aug 16 2012 1:18 PM In reply to

    • Mikee Carpinter
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    If avid won't fill us in.... anybody else out there having the same issue or have a fix?

     

    Mac Pro 2008 Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors AVID MC 5.5 Davinci Resolve 8.2 Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU NVidia 8800 Display Black Magic... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Aug 16 2012 3:03 PM In reply to

    • bustmethat
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    yeah, definitely have the same issues, but I find the combination of 6.0.3 and desktop video 9.5.3 to be at least workable. Far from perfect, but much better than the nightmare I was having with the Matrox MXO2 mini. the whole thing is a real bummer and sort of embarrassing for Avid, given the Open I/O fanfare, for sure. Hopefully they will eventually get it back to where it was in 5.5.3...

    MC 6.0.3.2, BMD Intensity Pro (9.6.8 driver), Mac Pro 3.33GHz 6-Core, 16GB RAM, OS 10.8.2 [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Aug 16 2012 3:18 PM In reply to

    • Euchrow
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Honestly, the performance of the latest BMD driver is more or less the same than the latest beta Matrox driver (3.02.0002). Workable but not if you spend hours a day trimming shots...

    Is this an isolated MacPro (or 6-core) issue or not, that's the million dollar question...

    Symphony 6.5.0.1 on Mac Pro Westmere 3.33Ghz 6 core, 12Gb Ram, Radeon 5770, Mountain Lion 8.2, Matrox MXO2 Mini. - MC 6.0.3.2 on MacBook Pro Retina 2.6... [view my complete system specs]
  • Thu, Aug 16 2012 4:23 PM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    definately not specific to the Mac Pro 6 core . 

     

    I have the same performance on

     

    1. An i7 top of the line imac - mid 2011 with Intensity Extreme on 10.7.4 and MC 6.0.1.1 and 6.0.3

    2. An Mac Pro 2.1 8 core with Decklink Extreme HD 2 and Snow Leopard with 6.0.1.1..this is a work machine so i havent gone to lion yet or tried the 6.0.3 update. 

     

    just to confirm its probasbly an avid issue, both setups perform great with FCP 7, FCP X, PPRO 5.5, 6, AE 5.5, 6 and DAvinci Reslove. 

     

     

    1.Imac i7 mid 2011 - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2 - Intensity Extreme driver 9.6.8. - Pegasus R6 2.MacPro 5.1 8core - 16gb Ram - OSX 10.8.2 MC 6.5.2... [view my complete system specs]
  • Sat, Aug 18 2012 11:13 PM In reply to

    • Bloersch
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Why is Media Composer getting slower with each upgrade? I thought 64bit would be an improvement, but each time i try a new upgrade, i have to downgrade to 5.5 again because of the poor performance with matrox mxo2. what's the reason? I'm looking forward for the next update.

    MC 5.5.3.5, OSX 10.8.2 Quicktime 7.6.6 , Retina MacBook Pro 2.7GHz Intel Core i7, Matrox MXO2 Mini, 16GB RAM, Firewire 800 HDD [view my complete system specs]

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  • Mon, Aug 20 2012 1:25 PM In reply to

    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    Gosh, by now, I was hoping I could upgrade my matrox mxo2 mini to a BMD board.

    That's a real pity, after such long time...

    Mac Pro 8 core 2.4 Ghz (Middle 2010), 14 Gbs RAM, Matrox MXO2 Mini (not working, using FSP for now) OSX v.10.7.5 AVID MC 6.5.2.1 [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 20 2012 2:07 PM In reply to

    • bustmethat
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    I have to say, I'm seeing pretty good performance on my setup, with Intensity Pro, driver 9.5.3, and MC 6.0.3.  Yes trimming is a little slow when the client monitor is enabled, but it's much much better than my Matrox experience.

    The BMD 9.6 drivers have audio scrubbing problems, so I'm sticking with 9.5.3 for now, and things are pretty good!

    MC 6.0.3.2, BMD Intensity Pro (9.6.8 driver), Mac Pro 3.33GHz 6-Core, 16GB RAM, OS 10.8.2 [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Aug 20 2012 2:17 PM In reply to

    • Euchrow
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    Re: MC 6.0.3 and Black Magic Decklink 3D same issue

    When trimming is slower than it should be, IMHO you can't talk about good performance. I edit on Avid because trimming is so quick and powerful. So I feel crippled with 6.0 and a Matrox or BMD. Silly thing is, it used to work really well which is quite frustrating. I hope it will be solved with 6.5 which of course will be free since 6.0 is gathering dust for so many of us... Smile

     

    Symphony 6.5.0.1 on Mac Pro Westmere 3.33Ghz 6 core, 12Gb Ram, Radeon 5770, Mountain Lion 8.2, Matrox MXO2 Mini. - MC 6.0.3.2 on MacBook Pro Retina 2.6... [view my complete system specs]
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