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  • Tue, Apr 10 2012 3:30 PM

    • Chris Barnett
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    Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

     

    Has anyone installed MC 6 on this version of a Mac Pro (2 x 2.66 Xeon - 2006 model ID 1,1)

     

    I am just attempting to do so but getting this error when running the installer:

    This computer does not meet the minimum system requirements to run Media Composer. Media Composer requires a 64-bit kernel.

     

    I obviously have an old mac pro that cannot be upgraded from 32bit kernel to 64 bit kernel - SO...

    Did anyone else have this problem and just ignore it, is this possible? if so have you come accross any issues while running the software? I have heard of problems with third party plugins - is it possible to run software in this version without these plugins? I am clearly new to AVID, this is my first purchase, is it possible for me to go to a previous version of MC (5.5) or something if this problem is terminal?

    any advice is appreciated..

    Cheers

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  • Tue, Apr 10 2012 4:31 PM In reply to

    • David Yardley
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    I ran MC6 for a while on a MacPro 1.1 quad core 3GHz running 32 bit kernel with no problems.

    I upgraded the computer as when using P2 material I got Pglue errors, (the problems persisted however.)

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  • Thu, Apr 12 2012 11:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    How'd you get it to install?  Were you running Lion on that MacPro 1.1?

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  • Fri, Apr 13 2012 10:25 AM In reply to

    • Chris Barnett
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    Yes I'm running lion.. To be honest I didn't realise there may be a problem with only having a 32bit kernel.. I just assumed my 64bit computer was 64bit..!

    It hasn't really caused any problems with my software running lion, apart from about 3 old program's that I don't use any more.. 

    I don't really like lion that much but it's only an OS and as long as the software works which it seems to.. Definitely check each program that you use a lot to see if they are supported..

     

    In terms of avid it gave me a warning that my non 64 bit, 64 bit computer was not supported, but through various feedback I've had I installed it anyway and it seems to work, although I haven't any sdditional third party plugins or codecs one there yet, which I hear can be a problem, and I'm new to avid so it will be a while before I fully test it.

     

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  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 2:27 AM In reply to

    • John Pale
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    You can ignore the warning and complete the install.  It does not stop you. This version works fine on an EFI 32 bit Mac pro, as it still has 64 bit processors and runs applications in 64 bit, despite running a 32 bit kernel.  

    The software runs fine.  You will not be able to use DX hardware, as the new kext for it is 64 bit only.  Running the 32 bit kernel keeps you from running kexts that are only written for the 64 bit kernel.  You can still use Blackmagic, AJA, and Matrox I/O cards and devices.

    You should not have any problems with codecs and plugins.  You are still running a 64 bit OS with 64 bit processors.  (Mac OS X is different than Windows in this regard). The only issue is kernel extensions which talk directly to the kernel.  A 64 bit kernel extension won't work with a 32 bt kernel.

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  • Thu, Jun 21 2012 12:07 AM In reply to

    • Abeyta
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    jpale:
    The software runs fine.  You will not be able to use DX hardware, as the new kext for it is 64 bit only.  Running the 32 bit kernel keeps you from running kexts that are only written for the 64 bit kernel.  

    I have a 2.1 Mac Pro 3.0ghz 8 core (2007 I believe). Will the DX hardware work with MC6 on this CPU? I didn't see this model on the qualified list anymore.

     

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  • Thu, Jun 21 2012 5:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    You can't use a dongle either. At least not easily.

    Robert

  • Thu, Jun 21 2012 6:19 PM In reply to

    • Abeyta
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    Losing the dongle wouldn't be a big deal to me. I'm more curious why the Nitris DX won't work but the other Blackmagic, Aja and Matrox boxes will? 

    I don't really want to have to buy a new Mac Pro (with processors that haven't been updated in years) just to get the DX to work in V6. Especially when my 8 core still has good life in it.

    Can Avid write a 32bit Kernal for MC/Symphony 6 like the other companies mentioned? Or is there another workaround?

    Apple has claimed to have a new updated Mac Pro out next year in 2013 and I will purchase a new one when they are released. However, it would be nice to upgrade to V6 before then.

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  • Fri, Jul 27 2012 9:51 PM In reply to

    • Jeff
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    Re: Media Composer 6 and non 64 bit kernel mac pro (2006 - 1,1 version)

    jpale,

     

     I have an older MacPro (2x2.66 Dual Core / 6GB Ram / OS 10.7.4 / ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512 MB)

     I have been runnig FCP 7 very successfully on it for years. I use a BlackMagic Intensity Pro PCI Card to send HDMI signal to client monitor. I recently installed MC6 (from Symphony) and received the minimum system requirements warning "...requires a 64 bit Kerenel." I installed anyways and received some occassional warnings about system extensions (.kext) that cannot be used or insecure start up items. I removed these files and MC6 runs smooth with two exceptions.

    1) I have no DNxHD codecs in my export or transcode settings.

    2) Playing a group clip in Quad Split at low resolution (35:1) and sending to client monitor is fine, but at higher resolutions (Pro Res Proxy) it drops frames immediatley and gives me a warning that it cannot maintain sync.

     Do I need a newer MacPro to resolve these issues? Is it possible that I can have these codecs and Quad Split playback at Pro Res Proxy with my current MacPro?

    Jeff

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