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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 5:06 PM

    • JEDRZEJ
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    Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    We do not have time to search for bugs in the software Avid MC.
    We have to deal with the work to earn money for a living.
    Microsoft has hired new developers to create Windows 7
    Previous were probably too stupid. Is Avid can do the same?
    Avid Media Composer 6,0,1 = Windows Vista
    Apple gave the market FINAL CUT X for $ 300 after
    listening to customers, and in version 10.0.3 running almost everything! Free trials for 30 days.

  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 5:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Okay, I'll bite...

    JEDRZEJ:
    We do not have time to search for bugs in the software Avid MC.
    We have to deal with the work to earn money for a living.

    So you have time to deal with the bugs and other shortcomings found in Final Cut X?

    JEDRZEJ:
    Avid Media Composer 6,0,1 = Windows Vista

    And also Mac OS 10.7.1 or 10.7.2

    JEDRZEJ:
    Apple gave the market FINAL CUT X for $ 300 after
    listening to customers,

    The thing is though, they didn't listen to their professional customers.  They listened to their consumer customers. 

    JEDRZEJ:
    Free trials for 30 days.

    Avid also offers a free trial for 30 days.

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 7:31 PM In reply to

    • Pixel Monkey
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    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Media Composer has had a 30 day free trial for a long time now. Here: http://apps.avid.com/media-composer-trial/. Not only that, here are other free trials by Avid: http://www.avid.com/us/specialoffers/product-trials. All of them are full versions that simply time-out at the end of the trial.  So if you have a project that will take less than 30 days, it's TOTALLY finished and exported  -  unlike other software trials that just let you edit one minute of video or whatever.

    Can someone please list for me exactly what bugs in MC6 are so crippling that you can't make money off of it?  I have used every single major and minor upgrade for the past four years and have NEVER run into a situation so desperate that I had to turn away work.  Every time I see someone throwing their hands in the air because of non-crippling software bugs, I imagine an angry college kid abandoning his car on the side of the road because his iPod isn't syncing with the stereo correctly.

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 7:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Pixel Monkey:
    I imagine an angry college kid abandoning his car on the side of the road because his iPod isn't syncing with the stereo correctly.

    More like "because it got a flat tire".  

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 9:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    just playing devils advocate here. The original poster has obviuosly never tried FCP-X cause it is riddled with bugs. 

     

    but, the Core Audio Underrun bug in 6.0 was definately a showstopper.. Like completely. You coudlnt play back files on a timeline at all. I had to roll back to 5.5.3 and while it didnt cost me money, it wouldve for someone who just started with version 6 with no old version to bounce back to. That said, im using 6.01 with almost as much confidence as i had with 5.5.3

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 9:43 PM In reply to

    • Pixel Monkey
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    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Curious... Which system were you running it on?  I moved my whole business to 6.0 in October and haven't looked back once.  Didn't see that underrun bug at any time.

    I have 7 Avids. All of them run on systems approved by Avid. Yeah...that's a lie...yet they all work! ;) [view my complete system specs]

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 9:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Robert Goodman :
    while it didnt cost me money, it wouldve for someone who just started with version 6 with no old version to bounce back to

    I don't understand how having to install an older version would've cost money to anyone (other than time to download and install)?  If said person bought v6 and are licensed to run v6, then they can also run v5.5 and prior - all versions of Media Composer are free to download at will by anyone.  The license is what you pay for.  

    Granted, if a system was built to optimize v6 then perhaps having to download and install v5.5 would've caused some headaches (ie, OS downgrade etc), but it's not the sort of thing that would be cost-prohibitive to most who are operating a business.  

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 10:06 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Kenton.VanNatten:
    I don't understand how having to install an older version would've cost money to anyone (other than time to download and install)?

    They probably figure if they'd known ahead of time they'd have problems with 6.0, they wouldn't have spent the money on the upgrade.  It's not that it cost them to downgrade, but that they could've avoided the hassle & expense of upgrading.  Just a guess.

    With regard to Chris' question about what bug is a showstopper, I'd consider the keyboard one - the one that causes non-English keyboards not to work properly - to be in that category.  I'm not saying the level of hysterical vitriol we see in posts like the one that started this thread is warranted, just that I can understand why someone with a keyboard that doesn't function as intended might find 5.5 a better solution than 6.0.

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 10:13 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Kenton.VanNatten:

    I don't understand how having to install an older version would've cost money to anyone (other than time to download and install)?  If said person bought v6 and are licensed to run v6, then they can also run v5.5 and prior - all versions of Media Composer are free to download at will by anyone.  The license is what you pay for.  

    Granted, if a system was built to optimize v6 then perhaps having to download and install v5.5 would've caused some headaches (ie, OS downgrade etc), but it's not the sort of thing that would be cost-prohibitive to most who are operating a business.  

    Devil's Advocate here:

    A new purchase of 6.0 does not inherently allow someone to use a 5.5 license. you need a dongle for that.  you would have to call Avid, have them deactivate your current license, and grant you a license string and activation code for 5.5.

    so it *IS* kind of a hastle that Dongle Users don't experience.  (a 15 minute call)

    Also, because of OS downgrades, and the frequency in which Apple releases OS Updates is EXACTLY why i am still on (and will continue to be on) Windows 7.  I'll only get screwed once upgrading to SP1....

     

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 11:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    not too mention you buy some hardware to go along with MC 6, like Blackmagic, Aja, etc that doesnt work with 5.5 and below. Id be right pissed. 

     

    and for the record, there was about a million other people having the CORE AUDIO UNDERRUN error, and it was indeed a showstopper, on two different qualified machines. Theres a huge thread about it still circulating in the first few pages of this forum. Thankfully 6.01 fixed pretty much all my bugs except some stuff with BlackMagic but then thats not entitely up to Avid to fix and i can still work as i need to. 

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  • Wed, Mar 21 2012 2:31 AM In reply to

    Re: Avid 6.0.1 BUGS & NEW FCPX

    Good points about the hardware and dongle vs SLA.  With all versions pre-v6, I don't think these sorts of things would have been as big of a deal.  

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