We are interested in using a Blackmagic Design Hyperdeck Studio with Media Composer to make Digital Cuts. Has anyone tried anything like this? I like the idea of using an SSD as a replacement for videotape. While videotape is currently less expensive then SSDs, the prices will continue to fall. I expect that before long, the cost of SSDs will be comparable to high-end videotape.
I also like the idea that I could take advantage of real-time effects. I expect I would not have to render color corrections, audio dissolves, and other simple effects. This would save time and disk space. The Hyperdeck Studio would create a DNxHD quicktime, effectively a real-time render.
So does the RS-422 port on the Hyperdeck Studio even support edit commands? Will the digital cut tool work with it?
Does the AJA Ki Pro or some other device support digital cuts?
Any thoughts on this will be appreciated.
Bruce Dixon
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The key will be if the device behaves like a deck. Will it allow MC to preroll and then play into the edit start point.
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Pat Horridge:Will it allow MC to preroll and then play into the edit start point.
Very unlikely that it will run up to the edit (decoding) then switch in the vertical edit into recording (encoding).
EVS does this by tieing up 2 channels (one to playback pre and post roll and the other to do the ingest). Sony's MAVs did a similar thing back in the day... Abekas products could do the preroll but not the postroll - but it wasn't ever a clean in if I remember right.
I had a producer today who was *very* impressed that we could do insert edits into HDCamSR master... (if only we could do that to files)
TrevorA:I had a producer today who was *very* impressed that we could do insert edits into HDCamSR master...
He must be used to working in FCS bays; most of the the vendors I've worked with quiver when having to do an insert from FCP.
Chris
Does it need to be a digital cut?
FWIW How about setting up a sequence with Bars, tone, leader, the cut and filler then crash recording it. (After a couple of tests you should be able to time the start of the timelines playback and recorder close enough to get within 2 or 3 frames of the sequences timecode) I would just use the leader for timing if I was going to recapture the "master"
Would be nice if more of these digital recorders would reliably accept external timecode
AndrewAction:Does it need to be a digital cut?
The abililty to do an insert into a file would require it. If it were supported (which I doubt for a number of reasons).
AndrewAction:Would be nice if more of these digital recorders would reliably accept external timecode
I've just made this request to my reseller of Blackmagic as under current conditions I'm about to buy a hard disk recording system from speedsystems.
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FWIW even Avid themselves with there Airspeeds have not masterred rs422 or vdcp control in ways that I find good enough. You would expect that after 30 years of rs422 protocol to control decks it would be obvious how to correctly emulate a VTR. Not so.
The only server to my best of knowledge that ever came close are/were EVS and the Sony MAV servers. But they have not released any solid state solution AFAIK.
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so, is this the end of this thread??
do we have an answer about digital cut -- timecode locked, track arming, insert edits, field accurate -- from avid to hyperdeck studio with 422 control?
i can't seem to find a real answer.
thanks!
I've never heard of one woring correctly. They seem to be ok for crash recording but certainly not insert editing.
But as we move to file beased delivery few customers are interested in realtime solutions.
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